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1Interview Date: July 26, 2026
Show: Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan
Guest: Senator Bernie Sanders (Independent, Vermont)
Senator Bernie Sanders sat down with Margaret Brennan to talk about five big issues affecting everyday Americans:
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth asked Congress for $67 billion in emergency funding to pay troops and restock weapons for the war in Iran.
"The war in Iran is unconstitutional. It is illegal. Should never have been started."
| What the Money Could Do Instead | What It’s Being Asked For |
|---|---|
| Build affordable housing | Pay for a war Sanders says is illegal |
| Guarantee healthcare for everyone | Restock munitions |
| Fight climate change | Keep troops deployed |
| Help working families struggling paycheck-to-paycheck | Continue a conflict raising gas prices |
IMPORTANT POINT: Both the House and Senate already voted on a War Powers Resolution saying Trump’s actions in Iran are illegal. Sanders says: "Given that we are where we are right now, let’s sit down. Let’s negotiate with them. Let’s stop the killing."
| State | Progressive Candidate | Background | Challenge |
|---|---|---|---|
| Maine | Troy Jackson | Logger, working-class, former ally of scandal-hit Graham Platner | Billionaire money flooding in |
| Michigan | Abdul El-Sayed | Public health official, populist | $50 million from super PACs against him |
| Minnesota | Peggy Flanagan | Progressive leader | Same billionaire opposition |
"The oligarchs, the billionaire class, are throwing unbelievable amounts of money into these campaigns to protect the establishment candidates."
In Michigan alone: $50 million from super PACs against El-Sayed
"The Bernie Bros could spoil Democrats’ midterms… saddling the party with nominees who [have] wildly unpopular positions… socialists who led the charge to defund the police, open borders, abolish prisons."
| Emanuel’s Claim | Sanders’ Reality Check |
|---|---|
| "Wildly unpopular positions" | Majority of Americans want: Healthcare for all, higher wages, climate action |
| "Defund the police" | Not the progressive platform – Distraction tactic |
| "Open borders" | Nobody runs on this – Fear-mongering |
| "Abolish prisons" | Criminal justice reform ≠ abolish prisons |
"People are sick and tired of the Rahm Emanuels, and the Democratic establishment, and the Republican establishment."
Simple questions regular people ask:
"The function of the current American healthcare system is to make billions of dollars in profits for the insurance companies and the drug companies, and they are spending huge amounts in campaign contributions to make sure that that happens."
IMPORTANT POINT: "50 miles north of where I am talking to you right now [Canada], they are spending half as much per capita as we spend, and somehow or another, they manage to guarantee healthcare to every man, woman, and child in that country."
Brennan: Vermont struggled with single-payer. Is there a working model?
Sanders: Vermont is a small state – it can’t negotiate drug prices like a whole country can. But Canada works. Europe works. We’re the only major country that doesn’t do this.
Two main parts:
| Part | What It Does | Why It Matters |
|---|---|---|
| 1. Strong Front-of-Package Labels | Big, clear warnings: "HIGH IN SUGAR" | Mom sees 15 teaspoons of sugar in a 20oz Coke instantly |
| 2. Ban Junk Food Ads to Kids | No more cartoon characters selling diabetes | Protects developing brains from predatory marketing |
A 20-ounce bottle of Coca-Cola = 15 teaspoons of sugar
That’s "bad stuff" – and it’s not just Coke. It’s all sweetened drinks and processed foods.
| Agency | Position | Vacant Since |
|---|---|---|
| CDC | Director | 11 months |
| FDA | Commissioner | 2 months |
| Surgeon General | Top Doctor | Vacant |
| # | Issue | Sanders’ Core Message |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Iran War | Illegal, unaffordable, negotiate now, spend $67B at home |
| 2 | Midterms | Working-class candidates can win IF billionaire money doesn’t drown them |
| 3 | Party Fight | Establishment protects donors; progressives fight for working people |
| 4 | Healthcare | Insurance/drug profits block reform; Medicare for All works everywhere else |
| 5 | Food/Health | Label junk food clearly, stop marketing poison to kids – bipartisan possible |
A: The Constitution says only Congress can declare war. Presidents have been using "Authorizations for Use of Military Force" (AUMFs) from 2001/2002 to justify wars never voted on by this Congress. Sanders (and both chambers) voted to say: This specific war needs new authorization or it’s illegal.
A: A Super PAC (Political Action Committee) can raise unlimited money from billionaires/corporations to attack or support candidates – as long as they don’t officially coordinate with the campaign. $50 million buys massive TV ads, mailers, digital targeting – enough to define a candidate negatively before they introduce themselves.
A: Instead of:
You’d get:
A: Sanders says yes, and here’s the logic:
A: Food industry lobbying. Companies spend millions to:
"The American people are tired of a rigged economy, a corrupt campaign finance system. They want real change. They don’t want Rahm Emanuel and the establishment maintaining the status quo."
– Senator Bernie Sanders
Whether you agree with Sanders or not, this interview lays out a clear, consistent worldview: Follow the money to understand why government fails working people – on war, healthcare, elections, and food. The solution, in his view, is organized people beating organized money.
Note: This article summarizes a full interview transcript. Some quotes are condensed for clarity while preserving original meaning. For the complete verbatim transcript, visit CBS News Face the Nation transcripts.